Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. The Nessus is usually the abuser but in this case, it was the son. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. His Eros is on her Descendant and her Eros makes a square to his Sun and conjuncts his Vertex. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. What would that mean? Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. Not sure which one id prefer. Theyre still deeply in love and their synastry and composite charts support it. thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. Partners switch roles? She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. Thank you for your words. What is your opinion on Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. Its not a square but there isnt much info out there on the conjunction. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. I am one person with one persons experience, of course. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) "I want to welcome you to my website. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. I read some things. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! I have seen it in a few people, only. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? This is a general rule, my Friend. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? We`ve known each other for a few months and generally it is a good relationship. Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. Who would bring who abuse? I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. Mars conj Saturn is not good. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. Chiron conj the Sun is not sexy. thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. Thank you Ariel! Thanks SO much for your kind words. I agree with Sydney. Thats your opinion. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. orb). I hope I can do this in my articles. M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. (both in Capricorn) Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. Ami, hello. Thank you so much, Love. Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. If it has not of yet, it may be a new relationship. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. It creates a synastry energy where all the houses for the whole chart are conjunct to their opposite house in the partner's chart. The conjunction is excact. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. Hello, what a great article, thank you. The chart shows the TRUTH. Thank you, Kay <3 And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. Thank you =). His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. Ascendant opposite ascendant (1st house on the 7th house overlay). When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . Sorry if this came off mean, I just dont want people to get scared over having one aspect when astrological interpretations are not set in stone. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? Lovely and very filled with passion! It is opinion, not truth. I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Chiron conjunct sun. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. Do you have any advice for me? with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. However, there is a flip side. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. That is what I was saying. I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Lovely, Lo! I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. for example a 1.46.. or 2? Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). I mean, a persons life is complicated. My guess is that it would be an obsessive relationship where both would try to hurt each other? I admire your wisdom. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. Thank you for your reply. Do you know what these aspects could mean? Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. Maybe also Mars/Uranus? Would you liken moon/pluto dynamics to an 8th house moon overlay? I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. It is not pretty at all. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! Which probably held it together for SO long. There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. How will these aspects play out? Love, Thank you for your comment. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. I just never have, not that it is not good. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. The first would be Nessus. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. lol. I am having a hard time following your questions, Julia. 1. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. I hear your concern. And I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. Great questions. I do charts for the people who want them. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Eros & Psyche in. They made my day, Jeanie. They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. Talk about deep dark sexual desiresTremendous sexual need to control. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? Not eros. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). or you consider just the closer orbit? Hardly. What are your thoughts? With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. Come and post the charts. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. What do you think? Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. I feel like it helps me. 5. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? . You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. Yes, that is a good way to put it. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. That is the nature of the DSC. Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? My Pluto opposite his Moon. Lets see. What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. . Where did you get these theories from? That is why it is so powerful. Thanks for your posts Ami. Conjunction, Opposition, Square, and Trine! And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. so, quick question, where do I post it? with Dejanira conjunct his natal Sun Eros thrills, scares and creates intense bonds. I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. Thank you again. It always starts this way. Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. . Eros represents what turns us on. what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? That is most certainly not the truth. Thanks! I dont do the Draconic. Will be keeping my wits about me. Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!!
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